Advisers Meeting


Actions to be taken

  1. Create a social business model which is credible, clear & simple.
  2. Decide on legal structure. +
  3. Ask Unlimited for pre start-up financial assistance for a social business. comments
  4. Start with a few small projects.
  5. Develop Facebook & Twitter networks,
    1.  Write an online call for artists,
    2.  build a small team that is ready to go at short notice,
    3.  put together a box of projects via Facebook twitter etc,
    4.  ensure artists involved have public liability insurance.
  6. Identify shabby looking buildings offering to do them up.
  7. Find sources of sponsorship.
  8. Continue networking.
  9. Contact relevant people in the local authority eg ward councillors .
  10. Start approaching owners .
  11. Don’t sign licenses as individual.
  12. Don’t push use class considerations under the local authority’s nose. +
  13. Assist provincial schemes – don’t parachute in the Londoners.
  14. Don’t make an approach without an idea of usage.

    Approaching & convincing owners

  15. Tailor the proposals according to each owners’ profile.
  16. Be clear about how we add value to buildings.
  17. Offer easy access to valuable media attention.
  18. Align our use with landlords business.
  19. Use a licence.
  20. Define a minimum time period for our use.
  21. It can easily be part of CSR +
  22. Emphasise these benefits it’s not just a goodwill gesture.
  23. State how much we’ll save the  

    Points raised

  24. We have to make money to live.
  25. Reality is the most important platform.
  26. The empty shops Toolkit is full of relevant advice.
  27. Plenty of professionals in the property business will be happy to help.
  28. 100% rate relief has been granted to an organisation that is not a charity.
  29. Be prepared for those few landlords who’re interested in how we’ll use a building.
  30. Landlords can cover the cost of buildings insurance; all other insurance is our obligation.
  31. To identify buildings and then approach owners, is more effective than the other way around.
  32. Institutional landlords are increasingly likely to understand this idea and say yes.
  33. Retailers locked into their occupational lease may like to mitigate their losses through us.
  34. Landlords need clarity to become interested.
  35. Local authorities often recognise that regeneration is part of culture, they’re unlikely to serve enforcement notices.
  36. A charitable entity does not necessarily look more honorable; reputation is more important.
  37. It may be difficult for PLCs to put these savings on their balance sheet.
  38. Other rate savings initiatives exist.
  39. Retail premises pay no rates for the first three months they are empty.
  40. Be cautious of 42 day ‘re-oc’… +
  41. The commercial property market is healthy in central London elsewhere it’s pretty bad.

9 thoughts on “Advisers Meeting

  1. 3.
    I filled out the advantage Initial Enquiry form, Steven Reach called me back straight away and said that this is exactly the kind of thing they’re interested in, but he explained that I should call and ask to speak to a level 1 adviser, so I’ve emailed Jennifer Humphrey and I’m waiting to hear back from her.

  2. 2.
    I’ve been researching the different types of structure that we could adopt. ACME studios are an industrial and provident society, this structure also enables rates relief, and I’m hoping its less restrictive than a charity. I&PS can be either companies or cooperatives. A cooperative is much more along the lines of the type of organisation that I’d like IEB to be. Of course there are many types of co-operatives. From the research I’ve done today, it appears that a cooperative consortium would be most appropriate. I’ve emailed Clive, Sydney and Phil asking them for their opinions on the subject. I think it would be good to ask them to comment here rather than asking them to reply to my email. I’m mad about the idea that people should only use email for private messages. Anything that can be of use to others and doesn’t require confidentiality should, I think, be in the public domain, surely this is one of the most amazing benefits of the interweb.

    1. Use classes are described here
      Local authorities ensure that buildings are being used according to their “use class”, for example, you’re not supposed to use an office (use class B1) as a gallery (D1).

    1. There are no rates to pay for a short period after a building becomes vacant (3 months in the case of retail premises).
      If a building has been in use for 42 days and becomes vacant again, there are no rate for another 3 months.

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